how to calculate it? i read and search the forums so far not much nicely related info... mind someone post a super detail about how to obtain optimized power output? thanks.. eg like how can a lv 40-50 can get 180+ power despite he is the only one in the team?
It depends on the stats. Maybe this level 50 guy has invested a lot of points in attack and/or defense, instead of energy & stamina.Originally Posted by teh_bong
From what I read somewhere (can't find it anymore):
Equipment:
Healer: Power comes heavily from defense value
Tank: Power comes a bit more from defense value than offense value
Melee: Power comes a bit more from offense value than defense value
Ranged: Power comes heavily from offense value
Whatever slot your main character is in counts as a 20% boost.
The % bonus for non-main characters is believed to come from a particular stat of the fleet member in that slot:
Ranged - Base attack
Tank - Base defense
Healer - Base energy
Melee - Base stamina
Feel free to correct me if I got any of that wrong.
for this pass week i got like free 8 galaxydome passes... wasnt is suppose to be 10?
melee based on stamina... stamina needs 2 points to +1, but why does it feels like attack outweights stamina despite one needs 1 point the other needs 2 points to +1 respectively?
this doesnt really work for me... I changed some postions and used more defensive gear for healer and tank and my power dropped from 1300 to 1000... I also dont think your char is 20% on every position since I have +800 on ranged position and only half on all others... I am confused
Red a few of those theorycrafts myself and most don't work or are not verifiable. Power varies too much. And top it all off values largely differ from 1 opponent to the other..
How can i have a 200 power difference (400 to 600) fighting 2 different opponents who have the same lvl range and rank, myself using the same gear and ship for both.. Im having a huge headdache trying to understand these numbers n improve.
Any official guides anywhere i missed? Any devs mind explaining out their game or do we have to figure out everything by ourselves??
pvp stat difference*, one level 125 can have 600/300 atk defense, the other only 300/200How can i have a 200 power difference (400 to 600) fighting 2 different opponents who have the same lvl range and rank, myself using the same gear and ship for both.. Im having a huge headdache trying to understand these numbers n improve.
Any official guides anywhere i missed? Any devs mind explaining out their game or do we have to figure out everything by ourselves??
*can be gained through participating a lot of cybertollahs, void killers, ragebeasts (find a group which consolidate events like these, also known as stat farming group, you can also start consolidating internal raids in your alliance too)
Nice tip, I will keep that in minnd, altought i was already farming voids hehe.
But that barely scratches the question.
How does my attack stack with power? how does def stack with power?
How does my defense affect my opponents power? Does stamina, energy, honor and health affect anything?
Could i simply use a raid calculator to maximise my damage/power or do i greaatly need to consider defense?
Is there a bonus and/or penalty for attacking people lower or higher level than you? Other than the extra stats from leveling i mean?
I do use a ship in domes right? which should I use and why? more officers or more crew? does the ship bonus apply? and in what way? Officer with a "race/slot" bonus like blitz any good?
Do procs on officers and on gear work? Is it good? Should I priories a gear/officer with "chance of bonus damage" or raw stats? up to which point and how so?
Can any1 confirm its better to put the best gear u have on urself or should i rather put it on my best fleet member with highest bonus? Even if the said member gives me 20% ( a.k.a Trinity, the beast, props)?
Is the statement above somewhat correct? :
These are most the questions I have @ the top of my head.. I red most of the forum, i hope i didnt miss a similar post.. id be ashamed lawl..Equipment:
Healer: Power comes heavily from defense value
Tank: Power comes a bit more from defense value than offense value
Melee: Power comes a bit more from offense value than defense value
Ranged: Power comes heavily from offense value
Whatever slot your main character is in counts as a 20% boost.
The % bonus for non-main characters is believed to come from a particular stat of the fleet member in that slot:
Ranged - Base attack
Tank - Base defense
Healer - Base energy
Melee - Base stamina
Any1 care to explain? Have solid theorycraft? Or has a link ><
All the help would e greatly welcome
Well let's see...
No one knows the exact formula so far (or if they do, they haven't shared - which is understandable since this is a pvp environment after all). But it depends on the role you put yourself into - some roles prioritize defense, some attack. Both your attack and defense work towards your power though, on all slots (I wonder why my first answer was downrated...? I'm sure it was the correct answer for the question posed).
It doesn't.How does my defense affect my opponents power?
No. Stamina and energy are used to see how much bonus% you give to your friends if they use you on the Melee and Healer slots.Does stamina, energy, honor and health affect anything?
You can't use the calculator because the formula is different... defense is more important than on raids, yes.Could i simply use a raid calculator to maximise my damage/power or do i greaatly need to consider defense?
Nope.Is there a bonus and/or penalty for attacking people lower or higher level than you? Other than the extra stats from leveling i mean?
Procs don't work. Officer/Crew stats and ship power doesn't count either.I do use a ship in domes right? which should I use and why? more officers or more crew? does the ship bonus apply? and in what way? Officer with a "race/slot" bonus like blitz any good?
Do procs on officers and on gear work? Is it good? Should I priories a gear/officer with "chance of bonus damage" or raw stats? up to which point and how so?
Sometimes the best gear should go on yourself, sometimes on the member with highest bonus - and sometimes even on another member (who doesn't have the highest bonus). It all depends on the formulas.Can any1 confirm its better to put the best gear u have on urself or should i rather put it on my best fleet member with highest bonus? Even if the said member gives me 20% ( a.k.a Trinity, the beast, props
Try things out a bit and see what gives you higher power.
Also, finally... since this is a very pvp oriented feature, don't expect everyone to help out with the formulas and setups... We are all glad to help with the dome mechanics if there are things you don't understand, but I think few people will want to help you optimize your team... You understand right?
Good luck
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My projects: [Tactics Theorycraft | Damage Calculator | Officer Comparison (outdated) | Farming Guide (outdated)]
Thanks a bunch. You've helped considerably. I guess I didn't realize people would want to keep their formulas but its totally understandable. I'll do the same.
Something bothers me tough. Someting doesnt fit in what u said.
-If my team members get their total power based on the gear, that procs don't work and defense doesn't affect the rivals power? How come does power shifts from fight to fight with the same guy? Luck factor involved? dices being rolled right?
-Another point. My crew doesnt bare the same power from fight to fight, and can greatly vary depending on who im fighting like i stated above. Example: I hit guy A, win with 608 power against 555. Than head to guy B, who has a 3 level difference with guy A and is the same dome rank. I win again but with a score of 458 to 440. What happened there? how did I personnaly lose so much power? Is there any known rules? bases? something we can hang on to to start calculating anything and improving? Im walking on moving sands here, without decent grounding Its terribly hard to experiment.. You add the fact that you can only hit 10 times a day and it becomes a nightmare. How can I test whats the best gear in such conditions? Honest question. Or is that where ur sentence, and i quote:
"" comes into play?"Also, finally... since this is a very pvp oriented feature, don't expect everyone to help out with the formulas and setups... We are all glad to help with the dome mechanics if there are things you don't understand, but I think few people will want to help you optimize your team... You understand right?"
Also thought I red somewhere else, that people switched ships before logging or something, to help with dome fight while their gone. Ships and their crew don't affect any aspect of the dome??? your 100% sure?? I could swear my power changed depending on which i used. /facepalm
Finally, just to confirm the general idea, I should :
>Best defense gear to healer? regardless of the attack on it, all the way to the extreme? go for a 1/10 rather than a 20/2?
>Balanced gear for tank prioritizing defense a little a lil? I guess I'll have to experiment here but to give an idea. 2/6 weapon or 6/2? what if i had a 4/4? Is that why u told me to experiment?
>Balanced gear for Melee prioritizing offense a little? Again, experiments but go for more attack if if it means less total stats? 14/4 instead of 12/8?
>Best offense gear to ranged? regardless or the defense, all the way to the extreme? 9/0 chest instead of 6/6?
Than the idea is to balance ur most valuable gear with the rules set above while considering how much bonus u get from each member?
1 last question if any1 is still reading lawl. How much importance do u give those bonuses? [I hope this is well formulated] How radical does a member bonus has to be for you to consider giving a more powerful piece of gear to him even tought stats would benefit another job/spot/role more? Giving a seemingly tank piece(with much more def than attack) to a melee because the melee's bonus is higher than the tank for example?
I realise i might be askign too much once again. Im kindly hoping some of u pros can somewhat answer those questions without giving all your secrets
Love you long time!
I guess they put some random factor to spice things a bit when you're battling someone with comparable strength
i am a Dome player too.. and i also want the exact answers to your question also LOLz... but as Rafael said... this is a PvP environment... so everything you discovered is definitely for your own advantage
here's some tip that might help you
--- there is a random factor on your power everytime you hit an opponent... even if it is the same opponent.
--- officers that adds bonus to personal stats are carried over to Dome power too.
--- always use a member w/c gives you the highest %.
the rest you gonna have to experiment by yourself... you quoted the bases for power and %'s above... i suggest you should start from there
This is pretty vague but thanx anyways, appreciate the contribution. Officers count but not the crew nor ship gotcha. So basically use a ship with lots of officer slots, and put stats increasing officers like Talia and kwank? Would Blitz "guerrilla leader" ability work in the dome? Or like-wise abilities boosting your character in X ways for each crew of a certain kind in your ship?i am a Dome player too.. and i also want the exact answers to your question also LOLz... but as Rafael said... this is a PvP environment... so everything you discovered is definitely for your own advantage
here's some tip that might help you
--- there is a random factor on your power every time you hit an opponent... even if it is the same opponent.
--- officers that adds bonus to personal stats are carried over to Dome power too.
--- always use a member w/c gives you the highest %.
the rest you gonna have to experiment by yourself... you quoted the bases for power and %'s above... i suggest you should start from there
Last edited by 'Shaun Phipps; 23rd February 2011 at 00:23.
take note: only officers that gives bonus to personal stats LOLz
kwank's bonus is passive, means that you don't actually have to put him in your ship to gain his bonus
the best ship for dome is the strike squad ship (epic drop from nightmare centurian general), you can put Talia, Laser Fodder/Melsarra Cass, and Lena if you already got them
LOLz... also waiting for that bonus stats healer officer eh
Did you just make up those numbers, or did it actually happen? There is a random variation, but the numbers you used can't happen, the variation is not that big...
Note: I no longer play the game.
My projects: [Tactics Theorycraft | Damage Calculator | Officer Comparison (outdated) | Farming Guide (outdated)]
Are you trying to troll me here? Don't like the insinuation ><
Telling you.. Was testing gear out when i came upon this.. Its the reason i came here in the 1st place.. Wish I had the exact numbers right now but they were very close to my example. A 140-150 difference between 2 guys of close levels. went from 610 or something close to 470+-
*Brainstorm* Was I just unlucky? Got max damage on 1 than minimal on the other? Diminishing returns since i fought some1 lower level than me? I didnt benifit from my gear as much? I Remember reading something about gear/level relations(Just throwing ideas)
Just found this quote by gohan in the leveling guide. Didndt u say defense didnt affect ur opponents power? Im so lost ><~LoTS Offensive and Defensive Formulas. From them you can judge your PvP power when you go in offensive battle or when your trying to bounce of attacker.
Offensive power formula goes like this. Attack + 0.4 Defense = Offensive Power.
Defensive power formula goes like this. Defense + 0.4 Attack = Defensive Power.
I did know about kwank, I just didnt have any other valid example with my limited knowledge but thx anywayskwank's bonus is passive, means that you don't actually have to put him in your ship to gain his bonus
the best ship for dome is the strike squad ship (epic drop from nightmare centurian general), you can put Talia, Laser Fodder/Melsarra Cass, and Lena if you already got them
I greatly appreciate that list of farms, will slowly get to it tyvm!
This formula is for Duels and possibly Skirmish and Beatdowns. The formula for GD is completely different.~LoTS Offensive and Defensive Formulas. From them you can judge your PvP power when you go in offensive battle or when your trying to bounce of attacker.
Offensive power formula goes like this. Attack + 0.4 Defense = Offensive Power.
Defensive power formula goes like this. Defense + 0.4 Attack = Defensive Power.
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